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King – Presence Ministries – Planet Preterist Web of Influence _____________ "QUOTH HE" ___________ David Embury
David Embury is a Preterist from Australia; he advocates a version of Universalism he calls "Pantelism" and hosts a web site called Pantelism.com
Covenant Eschatology/Corporate Body View/ First Fruits/Universalism "There is in this passage NOT two distinct separate "bodies" as such, but rather the ONE BODY in transition. The natural body answers to life as it was being lived under the Old Covenant world that was passing; the spiritual body answers to life as it was burgeoning in the New Covenant – "IT" was the one body ISRAEL in transition – the ministration of "death" as it was, embodied in the old covenant was being swallowed up in the new covenant ministration or spirit of life [Isa. 25:8; 1Cor 15:54-57]. IT was Israel… in the process of coming into her redemption via Christ and the first-fruit saints…which subsequently lead to the preordained reconciliation of the whole world [Rom 1:15]. Israel was the divinely appointed means to this end [Jn 4:22b] – in Christ and His first-fruit saints." David G. Embury, The Body (2004), Pantelism.com
Corporate Body/Baptism for Dead/ First Fruits/Universalism "By its very nature much of Scripture IS Israel orientated and specific, and thus time or era specific as well, yet this in no way negates its value for believers post Parousia in applying its truths and principles beyond the first-fruits first century time frame, for this reason: Israel was God's redemptive microcosm for what He was outworking in reconciliation on behalf of the whole creation – macrocosm. God predestined, called and elected historic Israel; out of Israel He chose a remnant; through this remnant came the Messiah [Christ]; "in Christ" God called a remnant or "first-fruits"; through this remnant God delivered [saved] "all Israel"; and in redeeming Israel God reconciled the whole world, thus restoring humanity to Himself." David G. Embury, Election, 2006. (We here see King's vicarious atonement via first fruit Jews used to advance Universalism. The corporate body view of the resurrection (justification) is a necessary predicate to the whole.) "A man was who he was according to his 'world', and for the Jews their world centred around Yahweh - they were His people and He their God, and so by covenant. Who were the first-fruit believers in Paul's eyes? None other than the 'Body of Christ'. Having been crucified, buried and raised in Christ they were thus delivered out of the body of sin and death i.e., the Old Covenant world, or what we might call the 'Body of Moses' – Paul having spoken of "the fathers" being "baptized into Moses" etc. [can you see the train of thought?] The designation "the flesh" is not one facet of man as opposed to another part of man i.e., "the spirit", but rather "the flesh" speaks of man as a whole in a given mode or realm of existence, as does likewise the spirit. So Paul's spirit/flesh language was indicative of life under covenant, either of the "flesh" as in OC or of the "spirit" as in NC – reading Gal 3 and Phil 3 bears this out." "What Paul explains by his "baptism for the dead" passage is that they as believers form part of the "first-fruits" company that would make the rest of the harvest [corporate Israel] acceptable to God." David Embury, Plantet Preterist post, Friday, December 05 @ 20:23:16 PST (This quote demonstrates the vicarious atonement concept behind King's baptism for the dead, the fruit fruits, and the corporate body view of the resurrection.) “Salvation was of the Jews and for the Jews [Jn 4:22; Mt 15:24; Act 3:26] – which in fulfilment carried a wider Gentile focus [Gen 12:3; Act 3:25]. Theirs was a "corporate" work of national salvation, and as such being the first-fruit saints were joined to Christ in his sufferings – thus confirming and bringing to fullness the redemptive work begun in Christ [Col 1:24; 1Thess 3:3; Heb 2:3] in preparing the way for the rest of the harvest, of which they were the first offerings.” David G. Embry, Baptism For The Dead, 2004 Universalism Thus regardless of whether being in 1st or 2nd Adam be either Israel or global NO-ONE had to "acknowledge, confess or believe in" the FIRST Adam to be designated "in him" -- and thus likewise NO-ONE had to "acknowledge, confess or believe in" the LAST Adam to be designated "in him" – THIS verse is speaking of the LOSS and RESTORATION [work] relative to each Adam -- both were comprehensive in cause and effect. David Embury, Planet Preterist post, Sunday, February 24 @ 08:06:18 PST (This quote accurately reveals the error in the notion of imputed, Adamic sin; if men did not need to do anything to be condemned, then why should they have to do anything to be justified? The error lies in this: Men are not condemned "in Adam." Rather, it is because they are in Adam that they sin and therefore come under judgment of death. All men inherit a fallen nature from Adam; but it is not until they obey that nature and chose to sin that they come under guilt. Likewise justification in Christ; we get in Christ only by the volitional act of faith and baptism. Hence, both condemnation and justification require an act of the will. We note further that Universalism will result even if guilt is attributed by volitional act if all source of law is removed, for without law, there is no condemnation. Those who claim, like Max King, that man was justified (resurrected) by removal of the law (rather than the addition of grace) eventually find themselves preaching Universalism.)
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