King – Presence Ministries – Planet Preterist
Web of Influence and Error
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"QUOTH HE"
________ - Amie May - WomenBeyond com.
Amie May has been a teacher at
Presence Ministries conferences. Her web site is considered by
many as a sister site to Presence Ministries.
Corporate Body View/Baptism for
Dead/First Fruits Mediation
"1
Cor 15, especially verse 19 for example, may be speaking of "this
life" as opposed to "that life"; or "this world" as opposed to "that
world". It again, makes the passage on "baptism for the dead" into
something much more comprehensive…Israel as a nation was chosen to
be "Kings and Priests". Such an accomplishment would create a
mediator between humanity and God resulting in a restored
humanity (therefore solving the problem created in Adam)… Israel
as a nation was resurrected (and judged) as promised. In Christ and
with Christ they reigned as Kings and Priests and they became a
light to the nations.. a beacon for all not to see, but to dwell in.
Christ became their mediator, they became the mediator between
God and humanity. Humanity then was no longer exiled, but
reconciled to God." Amie May, Post on Planet Preterist, Friday,
April 21 @ 16:17:14 PDT
(This
quote reflects King’s notion of vicarious atonement by the “first
fruit” Jews, according to which, Jesus justifies Israel, and Israel
justifies those grafted to them. Initially, this bizarre
doctrine was limited to those who obeyed the gospel in baptism, but
has since been expanded to all men. It also demonstrates how
the corporate body view is inherently Universalistic; in holding
that justification depends upon removal of the Mosaic law, rather
than the addition of grace, the benefits of the cross are
unavoidably extended to all men, regardless of obedience to the
gospel of Christ.)
"I
feel that he was [the] 'first covenant man' and that death passed to
'all' through him." Amie May 02-27-2006, 10:08 AM Talk-Grace
"I feel that Adam was first
covenant man and 'of' the mankind created in Genesis 1. Death
entered into the world through Adam because the OC first entered the
world through him." Amie May 02-27-2006, 07:32 PM Talk-Grace
(These quotes demonstrate a
denial that Adam is the biological parent of all mankind.
Death passed to all men, not because of Adam’s universal biological
parentage, but because he was the first covenant man, whose
transgression was purportedly imputed vicariously to all other men.
This view leads unavoidably to Universalism in that imputed
(Adamic/Mosaic) transgression is removed with the passing of the
Mosaic law.) Local
Flood/Universalism
"I'm sure that we could dedicate
a thread to clarification, but I shared that for the sake of sharing
my thoughts on the "local flood". I believe that the
resurrection of Christ impacted the world (the literal entire world)
in such a way that all were redeemed. I see it as a
localized event, impacting the entirety of humanity. If Noah's
flood were localized, it does not diminish the impact of it." Amie
May, 02-02-2007, 01:02 PM Talk-Grace
(This quote is an open
confession of Universalism. Universalists favor Old Earth
Creationism, the notion of that Adam was the first covenant man, and
the idea of a local flood. They find these concepts useful to
Universalism. By spiritualizing the heavens and earth of
the Genesis creation and making them “covenantal,” Universalists are
able to make the new Heavens and Earth of Revelation 21, 22
covenantal, thereby bringing all men within its benefit. The notion
of a local/covenantal flood is merely an extension of this concept,
arrived at by reverse reasoning from mistaken premises about
passages such as II Pet. 3 and Revelation 21, 22. Universalism
depends upon biblical liberalism to sustain its basic doctrines, of
which the local flood theory is but one example.)
Covenantal Adam/Covenantal
Death
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